More information on some children of John Neil and Mary Anne Chrystal : Part 3 Elizabeth Chrystal Neil

This is part 3 of a series of four posts. The whole series is:

Part 1 – Agnes Neil

Part 2 – John Neil

Part 3 – Elizabeth Chrystal Neil

Part 4 – Susan Logan Neil

This is part 3 of a series of posts.

Elizabeth Chrystal Neil and John McGowan and their Children

Continuing on from the previous post regarding the life of John Neil, I already knew a  lot about the next child, Timothy Chrystal Neil, my grandfather, and quite a lot about the child after that – Elizabeth Neil b. 25 Jun 1895 in Glasgow. But Lisa Cooper’s tree also had some information I did not have about the children she had with John McGowan who she married in 1914 and with whom she went on to have thirteen children – most of whom survived childhood.

The following information is given for each of their children and I need to check the veracity (Lisa has been 100% accurate to date) and add the information I do not already have to my tree. She lists the following

Mary Ann McGowan

B:16 Jun 1914 Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:21 May 1998 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

I also found a marriage on 18 June 1945 to John Patrick Brady in the Find My Past Catholic Registers. I filed this as N350.jpg and the original can be found here https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=SCOT%2FRC%2FMAR2%2F0145805%2F2

Dorothea McGowan

B:17 Jul 1915 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:5 Jun 1994 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

I found a marriage of Dorothea to Henry Bradford 30 Nov 1939 in the Catholic Marriage Registers on Find My Past.

She married at St Francis, Gorbals on 30 Nov 1939 to Henry Bradford of 360 Cumberland Street, the son of William Bradford and Isabella Barclay. She was the daughter of John McGowan and Elizabeth Neil, the marriage was of mixed religions and the witnesses were  John McGowan and Mary Ann McGowan. I have assumes that these were Dorothea’s brother and sister though I suppose John could be her father.

The record can be found at https://www.findmypast.co.uk/transcript?id=SCOT%2FRC%2FMAR2%2F0144986%2F2 I filed this record as N351.jpg

I had a quick look and also found some likely children for this couple; Elizabeth McGowan Bradford b 1941, William Bradford b 1946 and Henry Bradford b 1952 – all in Gorbals RD

John Neil McGowan

B:18 May 1917 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:9 Sep 1972 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Charles Neil (1st) McGowan

B:15 Apr 1920 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:27 Jan 1922 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Elizabeth Neil McGowan

B:26 Mar 1922 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:

Lisa didn’t have the information but I found her baptism.

She was born 26 March 1922 and was baptised 8 April 1922 at

St John the Evangelist, Portugal Street, Glasgow. Her father is given as Joannis (John) McGowan and her mother is Elizabeth Chrystal McGowan or Neil. The address is 10 1/2 Eglinton Lane.

A note says that on 25 Feb 1949 a marriage contract was made between her and Joanne (John) Russel at St Roberts, Househillwood.

I logged this baptismal registration as N347.jpg and the original is at FMP at https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FROMCATH%2FSCOT%2F92-1-2-7%2F0502&parentid=SCOT%2FRC%2FBAP2%2F0515741

I looked for a marriage based on the above entry and came across a Scotland’s People entry:

MCGOWANELIZABETH NEILLRUSSELLJOHN FULTON D G1949644 / 18 / 165Pollok

From <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/19916972386661e45edfce8>

I looked for a death for her and the nearest I could find were these two entries in the death indexes from Scotland’s People

MCGOWAN MARGARET F 1951 644 / 5 / 387 Springburn
MCGOWAN CATHERINE F 1955 644 / 4 / 1680 Provan
MCGOWAN JAMES M 1962 644 / 6 / 2441 Blythswood

From <https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results/637027827666471455b4f2>

Interestingly, of course, her baptism registration mentions her later marriage to John Fulton DG Russell. Perhaps she married the Fulton mentioned above and the priest wrote down the name in error in the baptismal register and perhaps she went on to marry a McDonald after his death. Speculation but plausible.

William Baird McGowan

B:3 Jun 1923 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:24 Dec 1923 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

I found his burial, aged 6 months, on 26 Dec 1923, address 10 1/2 Eglinton Lane

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=S2%2FGBPRS%2FROMCATH%2FSCOT%2FGB1091CSP00100005%2F00430&parentid=SCOT%2FRC%2FBUR%2F0259169

Logged as N348.jpg

George Baird McGowan

B:4 Aug 1924 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:14 Jan 1998 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

MCGOWANGEORGE BAIRD72NEILM1998613 / 86Glasgow, Martha St

Grace Baird (1st) McGowan

B:11 Sep 1925 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:9 Jan 1929 Bridgeton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Grace was buried in St Peter’s Dalbeth Cemetery 12 Jan 1929

Timothy Neil McGowan

B:7 Nov 1926 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:20 Jan 1971 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

He probably married Doreen Catherine Barr in Pollok 1955

He was buried in St Peter’s Dalbeth Cemetery 25 Jan 1971

I looked for possible children and came up with at least one likely name:

MCGOWANMARGARET F1951644 / 5 / 387Springburn
MCGOWANCATHERINE F1955644 / 4 / 1680Provan
MCGOWANJAMES M1962644 / 6 / 2441Blythswood

Charlotte Baird McGowan

B:15 Aug 1928 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:4 Jan 1929 Bridgeton, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland

Charlotte was buried in St Peter’s Dalbeth Cemetery on 7 Jan 1929 aged 4 months. She died at Belvidere Hospital

Grace McGowan

B:15 Mar 1930 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:11 Jun 2014 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Susan Neil McGowan

B:5 Jun 1931 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:9 Apr 1934 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

I found her burial in St Peter’s Dalbeth Cemetery on 11 Apr 1934

She lived at 10 1/2 Eglinton Lane

James McGowan

B:25 Jan 1935 Glasgow Gorbals, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:18 Aug 1981 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Charles McGowan

B:30 Nov 1936 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:14 Mar 1991 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

Charles married

Catherine Brodie

B:22 May 1934 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

D:12 Feb 2009 Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland

And they went on to have seven children, mostly still living.